I’m dropping notes in here, and will improve them later — the wifi, right now, is a little… lofi (nonfi?), so I’ll just do what I can when I can.

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Clay and Denise Caruso are talking about the two kinds of communities –

• those of love, ala Clay’s talk, and
• those where people must come together to work on a shared problem, whether they want to or not.

the question of love cuts both ways – when the community goes away, the subject goes into decline. It’s precipitous, but less drastic than when a company goes belly-up and its products are suddenly unsupported.

Kaliya Hamlin comments that ‘love’ sometimes (almost always) equals ‘hard work’ – she is talking from her history of 4 years working on creating a identity community